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Fur is awesome in a 1920s, overthrow kinda way. That's always what I think about when people say fur. Otherwise, ever since becoming friends with a vegetarian my standards for what counts as "unnecessarily cruel" have lowered. As in lots more animal-related jazz seems a lot more horrible.... At the same time, like you T, I do like my meat . I don't really have qualms if it was going to some other use anyway. And as long as I don't see the suffering....(incidently if anyone is looking for a push in the direction of vegetarianism, look up battery farms on youtube, apparently it works a treat  )